Comments on: Cheap Certified Scrum Master Training http://blog.punchbarrel.com/2009/05/15/cheap-certified-scrum-master-training/ Frank Carver's musings about software and life Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:02:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Tobias Mayer http://blog.punchbarrel.com/2009/05/15/cheap-certified-scrum-master-training/comment-page-1/#comment-2213 Tobias Mayer Mon, 18 May 2009 11:16:26 +0000 http://blog.punchbarrel.com/?p=1317#comment-2213 For me, Scrum certification is simply a starting point for a personal journey towards better ways of working. I encourage people to adapt the ideas to suit context /while respecting the core principles and practices/. Scrum is like chess, many strategies but bound by some very simple rules. Create your own strategies, for sure, but you can't break the rules, or there is no game. Hope to see you in Brighton :-) For me, Scrum certification is simply a starting point for a personal journey towards better ways of working. I encourage people to adapt the ideas to suit context /while respecting the core principles and practices/. Scrum is like chess, many strategies but bound by some very simple rules. Create your own strategies, for sure, but you can’t break the rules, or there is no game.

Hope to see you in Brighton :-)

]]> By: Frank http://blog.punchbarrel.com/2009/05/15/cheap-certified-scrum-master-training/comment-page-1/#comment-2212 Frank Mon, 18 May 2009 09:49:16 +0000 http://blog.punchbarrel.com/?p=1317#comment-2212 I guess my point was not really to contrast Scrum and XP - I'm happy that they address different issues. The main difference for me is the emphasis on <b>certification</b> and the potential limiting effects this may have on teams' freedom to adapt, customise and experiment. In my exprience, other forms of project management certification (such as <a href="http://www.prince2.com/" rel="nofollow">PRINCE 2</a>) have certainly had such an effect. The "other implementable ideas" from this point of view are the myriad of subtly different but broadly agile processes adapted (and continuing to adapt) to suit particular situations. All of this doesn't stop me being tempted to go for the cert myself, though :) The tough bit for me would be finding someone not in the software business who would consider the expense and time of travel to Brighton worthwhile. I guess my point was not really to contrast Scrum and XP – I’m happy that they address different issues. The main difference for me is the emphasis on certification and the potential limiting effects this may have on teams’ freedom to adapt, customise and experiment.

In my exprience, other forms of project management certification (such as PRINCE 2) have certainly had such an effect.

The “other implementable ideas” from this point of view are the myriad of subtly different but broadly agile processes adapted (and continuing to adapt) to suit particular situations.

All of this doesn’t stop me being tempted to go for the cert myself, though :) The tough bit for me would be finding someone not in the software business who would consider the expense and time of travel to Brighton worthwhile.

]]> By: Tobias Mayer http://blog.punchbarrel.com/2009/05/15/cheap-certified-scrum-master-training/comment-page-1/#comment-2211 Tobias Mayer Mon, 18 May 2009 09:07:13 +0000 http://blog.punchbarrel.com/?p=1317#comment-2211 Hi Frank, Thanks for mentioning WelfareCSM. I don't feel Scrum (i.e. the Scrum Alliance) is battling with anyone for mind-share. I know I am not. Good Scrum implementations use most of the XP practices, and all good Scrum trainers will recommend those practices. But then, apart from Scrum and XP what other implementable ideas are out there in the Agile world? That's a serious question. Hi Frank,
Thanks for mentioning WelfareCSM. I don’t feel Scrum (i.e. the Scrum Alliance) is battling with anyone for mind-share. I know I am not. Good Scrum implementations use most of the XP practices, and all good Scrum trainers will recommend those practices. But then, apart from Scrum and XP what other implementable ideas are out there in the Agile world? That’s a serious question.

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